- 01:59:58 Sitting down for the Dem debate. Woo?
- 02:01:14 Main question, will Clinton continue to go negative? I think that has been a mistake so far. Reminds folks of the worst of the Clintons.
- 02:06:03 O’Malley still here. Opens by pointing out how much younger he is than the other two.
- 02:08:08 Sanders first 100 days priorities all things that would die instantly in congress.
- 02:09:28 Of course Clinton’s answer was a non answer too. O’Malkeys will be too.
- 02:10:05 Only honest answer is “I don’t know, it depends what is going on in the world next January, which we don’t know today.”
- 02:15:33 I know why Sanders is here. Why is O’Malley still here? VP audition?
- 02:18:50 Clinton trying to solidify the fact she has overwhelming support with African-Americans and Sanders… does not.
- 02:23:56 These are better questions than in most of the debates. Kudos to Lester Holt.
- 02:25:22 Retweeted @DaveAHopkins 02:23:15 The issues raised so far in this debate have *zero* overlap with those raised in the Republican debate on Thursday.
- 02:26:06 It would be amusing to see a Dem debate get the Republican questions and vice versa.
- 02:28:27 Retweeted @dandrezner 02:28:10 O'MALLEY: Can I just have ten seconds?
HOLT: After our commercial, we'll talk about anger in America
O'MALLEY: But Lester-
HOLT: F**k off. - 02:32:00 Healthcare now. The Clinton attacks on Sanders on this the last few weeks have been nuts for the primary cycle. It isn’t the general yet.
- 02:34:33 Sanders doing the righteously indignant thing. He does it better than Clinton does.
- 02:35:39 This fight between them does not help Clinton in primaries. The base is with Sanders here. No matter what the merits.
- 02:37:56 I understand Clinton has PTSD about 90s healthcare effort, but it appears weak. “We can’t do that because it would fail!” True, but still.
- 02:39:32 Don’t get me wrong, Clinton is right that going much past ACA isn’t in cards in next 8 years. Question is tone and what Dems want to hear.
- 02:39:56 Retweeted @NoahCRothman 02:39:36 Clinton is cleaning up on substance, but she's selling limits. That's a hard sell in a populist moment.
- 02:40:25 Retweeted @GoldyHA 02:40:14 Bernie Sanders clearly does angry better than Hillary. So if I were her, I'd pivot more toward a positive message. #DemDebate
- 02:41:07 Retweeted @4jonc 02:40:02 hillary clinton making arguments from pragmatism is as strong as she ever sounds, which is maybe why it's hard to build enthusiasm for her.
- 02:42:40 Sanders keeps pointing at me.
- 02:44:06 Every time O’Malley talks I wonder why he is here. He is not horrible, but O’Malley isn’t happening.
- 02:54:41 Hillary putting on Obama mantle 100% here. Interesting counter attack to Sanders Wall Street attack.
- 02:55:16 Retweeted @anamariecox 02:54:55 “Where is the daylight between us? Why, I am standing MUCH closer to Obama than Bernie is.”
- 02:56:17 Every time Clinton attacks Sanders it raises him up and makes her look smaller. Not a good tactic.
- 02:57:00 Retweeted @ComfortablySmug 02:56:43 Does Hillary really want to bring up things people said about Obama? She was bonkers in 2008
- 02:58:09 Retweeted @philipaklein 02:56:18 Clinton portraying herself as the defender of the Obama legacy. Sanders trying to appeal to progressive disappointment with his presidency.
- 02:58:37 Retweeted @HeerJeet 02:58:25 My name is Martin O'Malley and I am not going to be Hillary Clinton's VP choice.
- 03:05:29 Sanders is right. Clinton has been disingenuous about yelling “taxes” while not mentioning premiums go away. Need full picture to debate.
- 03:07:12 Really, a cartoon?
- 03:08:56 Sanders did the weather/climate confusion that deniers often make. It is just as bad coming from the other side.
- 03:09:51 “On this stage, where we believe in science…” Good line from O’Malley.
- 03:13:36 Retweeted @MaxBlumenthal 03:07:27 Note that the moderator skewering Sanders on big banks, @mitchellreports, is married to Alan Greenspan #DemDebate https://t.co/QEeoKe9Xb2
- 03:16:59 Starting the international section…
- 03:18:18 Sanders for normalizing Iran relations. Has anybody else been as direct about that?
- 03:24:02 Retweeted @politico 03:23:34 Here's the breakdown of speaking times so far:
Clinton: 18:20
Sanders: 20:30
O'Malley: 9:01
https://t.co/kQ0dz9SwXb - 03:24:22 Retweeted @TheFix 03:24:08 Sanders is the prime mover in this debate. He speaks on issue, ojher candidates — including Clinton — react.
- 03:31:43 Oh god. The encryption question.
- 03:32:44 O’Malley says get a warrant. Sounds good so far.
- 03:34:01 Sanders mentioning that private company information on individuals also a problem. Something I have said too.
- 03:34:36 Holt shuts them all down for the break!
- 03:36:58 George Clooney playing Jim Cramer?
- 03:39:38 Clinton is so bad on encryption and privacy/safety trade offs.
- 03:40:00 O’Malley begging for time so pitiful.
- 03:41:39 Retweeted @jessieopie 03:41:18 Martin O'Malley asking for his 30 seconds https://t.co/fSTAE4l5S4
- 03:43:50 I thought they were going to ask Sanders what Bill Clinton’s role was going to be in his presidency.
- 03:44:11 Retweeted @DanielLarison 03:43:59 Sanders: I'm not saying Clinton is corrupt. She's just surrounded by corrupt people
- 03:46:10 Sanders nails the Bill Clinton behavior question he did get though. At least for a Dem audience right now.
- 03:50:00 Really? End with “ok, say what you want to say?”
- 03:50:25 Retweeted @HayesBrown 03:50:16 "Is there anything you want to say that you haven't gotten to?"
O'Malley: [cries tears of joy]
- 03:54:24 One thing the broadcast networks do better than cable… End the damn thing on time, under two hours! Yay!
- 03:56:20 Ok, wrap up. I don’t think Hillary helped herself by scrapping with Sanders. But won’t matter much. She still wins in the end.
- 04:01:35 Pollwise I think Sanders surge already peaked & even if Sanders wins both Iowa & New Hampshire it won’t be enough 2 stop Hillary juggernaut.
- 16:16:34 Retweeted @elonmusk 03:07:21 Falcon lands on droneship, but the lockout collet doesn't latch on one the four legs, causing it… https://t.co/DpXsRQWal9
- 16:37:24 Reading – Six Responses to Bernie Skeptics (Robert Reich) https://t.co/Kl2Y58F8Lq
- 16:39:48 Reading – Ben Carson warned debate viewers about EMPs — a threat that only exists in action movies (Zack Beauchamp) https://t.co/1RnXIivBZY
- 16:47:50 Reading – Clinton Campaign Underestimated Sanders Strengths, Allies Say (Patrick Healy) https://t.co/HRuBh5uHVY
- 16:51:53 Reading – 'Implementation day' for Iran nuclear deal: what it means (Scott Peterson) https://t.co/8hOUcltTi1
- 16:55:24 Reading – Have Republicans Given Up on Fighting Donald Trump? (Jonathan Chait) https://t.co/u1b6EeRxyb
On this week’s Curmudgeon’s Corner, Sam and Ivan catch up with the developments of the last few weeks for the Presidential race. They cover all the dynamics on the Republican side, and discuss if Sanders really is a threat to Clinton on the Democratic side. In the lightning round, a round up of some other recent news… Chinese markets, Iran and Saudi Arabia, CES, Y’all Qaeda in Oregon, book and TV show reviews, and more! Click below to listen or subscribe… then let us know your own thoughts!
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