There are a number of NSA/GG related articles I have noted to myself to read “later”, but I just don’t have the energy right now… sleep yet? 03:17:42
RT @joshuafoust: How did the Indy get this? Is snowden branching out? Was it dumped somehwere and cracked? The answer will say a lot about … 00:24:27
Reading – Great news: Surveillance review panel stacked with intel leaders and WH staffers (Ed Morrissey) http://t.co/E0XT7OxfAH00:28:02
.@BYUfan I’m reserving judgement for now on if I think it went too far, but no doubt that far fewer will approve compared to previous leaks. in reply to BYUfan03:33:52
Reading – The Truth Continues to Trickle Out on the Greenwald Family Reality Show (Bob Cesca) http://t.co/sSuqhv8AVw18:57:44
Oh yeah, my mom was out about two hours ago. All went well. Doing fine…. Had lunch now running a few errands. 20:42:34
RT @jeffjarvis: Say hey to Snowden for us MT @kevinmitnick: looks like I'll be headed to Moscow in a couple weeks to keynote. Time for some… 23:35:21
So horribly sad. :-( -> Everett police won’t seek charges against father who ran over daughter (John de Leon) http://t.co/hG3FSK6v7W04:24:57
“Alex, do you know what spiders do with their webs?” “No, what?” “They catch bugs, and then they eat them.” “NOOOOOOO! That would be MEAN!!” 04:59:12
RT @Thomas_Drake1: NSA'a utter contempt of law. FISC p16: so "frequently &systemically violated" privacy rules that legal regime "never fun… 05:19:12
Hear Hear! -> Bradley Manning in a World of Cheneys, Hadithas, and NSA Domestic Surveillance (Juan Cole) http://t.co/kTGflJ9FXR05:25:15
RT @conor64: NSA logic: if 4th Amendment rights were violated due to a "complex technical problem," it's nothing to worry about. 05:31:20
Reading – 8 Real Spies And Actual Bad Guys Who Got Shorter Sentences Than Bradley Manning (Nick Wing) http://t.co/U1VggAEf6807:14:03
Reading – Benedict Cumberbatch Attacks U.K. Government On “Sherlock” Set (Ellie Hall) http://t.co/wsytFwFAG412:56:50
.@imbou I know that was your point, I just think the implications to oversight or lack thereof are more important than anything abt Snowden. in reply to imbou00:00:38
.@imbou And I still say they would have figured out it was him before too long. :-) [I just don't think it matters much.] in reply to imbou00:02:11
RT @imbou: @abulsme I agree the oversight sucked! The problem all were talking is Miranda, his lawyers, yeah I am sure there were no contr… 00:05:02
RT @imbou: @abulsme at the same time I don't think there was a programmatic effort to break the law either 00:05:11
.@imbou I believe there was no programatic effort to break the administrations twisted interpretation of the law. in reply to imbou00:06:06
.@imbou But more & more I am agreeing with the notion that the whole program may be illegal if you don't buy the odd use of "relevant", etc. in reply to imbou00:07:09
.@imbou Not to mention whole 4th amendment concern, although courts so far have gone other way on that, slowly eroding all meaning from 4th. in reply to imbou00:08:17
RT @imbou: @abulsme every law has an interpretation, well educated people will always differ, I was going over a few legal points today and… 00:12:26
.@imbou Of course, always room for reasonable disagreement. But not when you just redefine words arbitrarily to get the result you want. in reply to imbou00:13:46
.@imbou Should not have cases where the "interpretation" is so far from the plain reading of the text as to be unrecognizable. in reply to imbou00:14:39
RT @imbou: @abulsme which is why I hated the law as written in the first place the whole thing should be scrapped 00:14:48
.@imbou I give you that I can be pretty literal, but don't have to be all that literal to think that "relevant" doesn't mean "everything". in reply to imbou00:17:11
.@imbou Or that you aren't "collecting" when you save copies of things, as long as you don't look at it. in reply to imbou00:18:07
RT @imbou: @abulsme the laws were way way way too broad, there was no advocate for privacy or the other position it was a bad set up all ar… 00:18:15
.@imbou You always expect vague laws 2b applied in the broadest way possible, but in this case even law's authors stunned by interpretation. in reply to imbou00:19:28
RT @imbou: @abulsme the whole is probably unconstitutional but the court has failed to see it that way 00:19:35
RT @imbou: @abulsme you have always had this complaint as far as I remember but this what happens when bad laws get written 00:20:09
.@imbou If you allow admin to define words however they want, no law is safe, admin can make any law mean whatever they want. in reply to imbou00:21:22
.@imbou The interpretations should have to at least somewhat resemble the plain reading. Otherwise, might as well just get rid of congress. in reply to imbou00:22:49
.@imbou Although actually… now that I mention that possibility… they ARE pretty useless, so maybe… in reply to imbou00:23:28
RT @imbou: @abulsme this is what happens laws are crappy, Clinton really believes he didn't have sex with Monica according to his interpret… 00:23:33
.@imbou At least in that case, a good deal of the population DOES use the word sex in a way that does NOT include what Clinton/Lewinski did. in reply to imbou00:24:22
RT @imbou: @abulsme well they are the morons that pushed this crap legislation without thinking the implications. I am not impressed by th… 00:24:30
RT @imbou: @abulsme how about they write a law with good oversight and review and opposition advocacy instead of here do surveillance we tr… 00:24:47
.@imbou Ha! Like congress would ever do that! They don't WANT that responsibility! in reply to imbou00:25:14
RT @imbou: @abulsme if you totally leave it to them of course they will fin the interpretation most beneficial to their view!!!! 00:25:19
.@imbou Congress should be hopping up and down and impeaching whenever an admin "interprets" their laws too broadly… But… in reply to imbou00:26:26
.@imbou But of course, each party supports their own prez, and congress as a whole never stands up for congressional rights. in reply to imbou00:27:40
.@imbou As a congressperson, I should be pissed at the pref violating law, even if I think the law is wrong and the prez right on principle. in reply to imbou00:28:53
RT @imbou: @abulsme they need to their job and congress barely passes anything anymore which makes what gets through awful 00:29:33
.@imbou "Checks and Balances" requires congress & courts that are NOT deferential 2 executive branch and stand up 4 selves. Don't have that. in reply to imbou00:31:10
RT @imbou: @abulsme so if you passed a law and let Clinton be the arbiter of what sex means, that's what you get!!! 00:31:16
RT @imbou: @abulsme I think the courts have proved more inclined to defend their turf but not congress, and every day they don't makes it w… 00:35:00
.@imbou The court does stand up sometimes, but has also shown a lot of deference to the executive and the expansion of presidential power. in reply to imbou00:35:40
Reading – Poll: Louisiana GOPers Unsure If Katrina Response Was Obama's Fault (Tom Kludt) http://t.co/HQeKOJKaON18:46:57
RT @dangillmor: Even if you believe NSA works hard to minimize violations of its programs, the programs themselves are the larger violation… 20:27:25
For the record, I see there was a massive dump of NSA stuff a little while ago. Watching twitter, but @ work, so not looking at details now. 20:43:06
Reading – Concern over NSA privacy violations unites Democrats and Republicans, poll finds (Scott Clement) http://t.co/LkWxmRxOzj20:43:28
RT @Moochava: Yearly reminder: unless you're over 60, you weren't promised flying cars. You were promised an oppressive cyberpunk dystopia.… 00:41:51
Watching – The end of Current TV and the first 5 minutes of Al Jazeera America (Brian Stelter) http://t.co/xcAMcOEY3E19:32:30
Set up my Tivo to catch Al Jazeera news updates. Will check it out. Would probably have preferred if they just put AJ English there though. 19:34:18
RT @GrahamKIRO7: UW seismologists say it appears earthquake hit on Tacoma fault and say there is small possibility of larger quake in next … 20:48:12
.@imbou More importantly though, fact they don't know what he looked at and took means claims about strong oversight and controls bogus. in reply to imbou23:55:02
.@imbou If they don't know what Snowden was able to look at and access, they don't know what any of their other employees are doing either. in reply to imbou23:56:04
.@imbou "Abuse is rare and limited." OK, If you can't audit in detail what people are looking at, how the hell do you even know? in reply to imbou23:57:06
RT @imbou: @abulsme I'm not defending the program or it oversight what I am saying is that most likely he could have leaked and shut up! 23:59:11
RT @stilkov: Imagine the awesome speeches on privacy and surveillance Obama would be giving if he hadn't been elected. 05:41:11
RT @trutherbot: The Constitution does not grant you rights, it simply says the government cannot infringe upon the rights you were born wit… 06:41:34
Reading – Full for iPhone is a beautiful and simplistic way to track and maintain personal goals (Allyson Kazmucha) http://t.co/8jBFCHiB2M07:40:51
RT @conor64: The lesson here: when government seizes a police power to pursue terrorists, the power is inevitably used against non-terroris… 08:09:51
Reading – Glenn Greenwald’s Partner Detained By British Security; Was Transporting Top Secret Documents. (Bob Cesca) http://t.co/g2bI2rcEk916:02:02
BTW, @bobcesca_go‘s 24 hour rule is very wise. Not just for Guardian/GG but for all breaking news. Sometimes even a week or a month is wise. 16:04:33
Of course, that doesn’t stop me from commenting in the heat of the moment. But must always remember early reports often wrong or incomplete. 16:06:08
