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Electoral College: Romney rebound continues, but not yet enough to win

Three states change categories today. Two states move toward Obama, one state moves toward Romney. But Romney’s state is bigger than the other two combined, so he wins the day. Lets look at them each, from smallest to largest:

The five poll average in New Hampshire had been generally sticking at an Obama lead less than 5%, but with two related polls (both from WMUR/UNH with and without pushing leaners to express a preference) showing Obama with a 15% lead in the state, the average spikes upward These data points may well prove to be outliers, they certainly seem like it initially, but for the moment they move Obama’s lead well out of the “Leaning” category, and indeed almost all the way to the “Strong” category. For the moment though, Obama’s lead stands at 9.8% and we put New Hampshire into the “Weak Obama” category. (Note that even if we’d only counted one of these two polls, the state would still end up as Weak Obama.) This has the effect of moving New Hampshire out of Romney’s reach for the moment.

In Nevada things look less like they are being influenced by an outlier. Instead three of the last five polls in the state now show leads over 5% and the average now jumps to a 5.7% Obama lead. There does seem to be some real movement toward Obama in those last few polls. Will it last? Who knows. But for the moment Nevada also moves out of Romney’s reach as well.

This would all look pretty bad for Romney today, except for the third state:

Florida, where the five poll average had just hit 5.0% exactly last Thursday causing me to move Florida to “Weak Obama”, now drops back below 5% again, putting Florida back into the much more familiar “Weak Obama” category where it has been for most of the last year. The spike upward appears to be over, and Florida has reverted to form as being a close state. Well, sorta close. The five poll average still has Obama at a 4.1% lead in Florida, which is not insubstantial. And he has been “slightly ahead” in the state for most of the year. But this is still a small enough lead that given the right sorts of events it could disappear quickly. So once again, I list Florida as being in play.

And that makes the current status:

Romney Obama
Romney Best Case 263 275
Current Status 191 347
Obama Best Case 191 347

So Romney’s best case if he wins all the close states… now once again including Florida… is still to loose, but now by a pretty small margin. Obama 275 to Romney 263. If he can get Nevada back in play and win that, we could have a 269-269 tie, which would probably end up going for Romney in the House. A tie would be a lot of fun. Still an unlikely scenario though.

In general, to win, Romney has to win Florida (29), North Carolina (15), Virginia (13), Colorado (9) and Iowa (6) for sure. All of those are “must win”. And Romney is currently behind in all of them to various degrees. They are all pretty close though and flipping them is not unrealistic. On top of that he then needs to get at least one of the big states in the “Weak Obama” category, or two of the smaller ones. Those are all states where Romney is behind by more than 5%.

Although the map looks a bit better than it did a few days ago, it is still a very bleak picture for Romney at the moment.

Note: Chart and map from the Abulsme.com 2012 Electoral College Prediction page. Both assume Obama vs Romney with no strong third party candidate and show polling as it currently exists. Things will change before election day. On the map red is Romney, blue is Obama, gold states are too close to call. Lines on the chart represent how many more electoral votes a candidate would have than is needed to tie under several different scenarios. Up is good for Obama, Down is good for Romney.

Edit 2012 Oct 3 09:44 UTC to add final note.

Curmudgeon’s Corner: If Suddenly I Start Screaming

In the latest Curmudgeon’s Corner Sam and Ivan talk about:

  • Stones! / Cars!
  • Call for Romney Supporters / EC Update / Debate Preview / Coattails?
  • Apple Maps
  • Reading on Paper
  • Driverless Cars

Recorded on 30 Sep 2012

Length this week – 55:51

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Catching the Moon

@abulsme Updates from 2012-10-01 (UTC)

@abulsme Updates from 2012-09-30 (UTC)

  • Reading – New design factors for Robot Cars (Brad Templeton) http://t.co/Qp80Vr1v #
  • Reading – Lessons From The Dramatic Slow-Motion Death Of Wikitravel (Jon Evans) http://t.co/mOnpR8hp #
  • Reading – Charlie Cook – skeptical of a House switch (Sam Wang) http://t.co/vVV5cF5W #
  • Reading – Did a Computer Bug Help Deep Blue Beat Kasparov? (Klint Finley) http://t.co/adqUYOpO #
  • Reading – Daily Breakdown: A Light Polling Day Without Terrible News For Romney (Nate Cohn) http://t.co/qK8Xwa1X #
  • Reading – Hotter than Paul Ryan (Elizabeth Kolbert) http://t.co/XeeFBwux #
  • Readint – Mitt Romney Will Rescue America’s Yacht … From Indeterminate Peril, Apparently (Jason Linkins) http://t.co/SiDPe7LL #
  • Reading – EP update for September 28 – Feeling Carolina blue as GOP Senate gains fade away (Scott Elliott) http://t.co/Zs3AG30q #
  • Reading – The Bottom Line on Party ID (Josh Marshall) http://t.co/LK6eYh6z #
  • Reading – Aircraft Carriers in Space (Michael Peck) http://t.co/ACTZMdnZ #
  • Reading – Obama set precedent with Drone Killings for Romney to become Terminator-in-Chief (Alice K. Ross) http://t.co/OVQVKOqs #
  • Update on fun kidney stone. Pain getting worse. Doc says may need lithotripsy this time. Sending me to urologist if don’t end up @ ER 1st. #
  • Reading – Double-tap drone attacks are truly shameful (Gwynne Dyer) http://t.co/nZTlUTD8 #
  • Reading – The Newest Romney Model Is Coming Pre-Loaded with Zingers (Paul Constant) http://t.co/PTOMZrNw #
  • Reading – The FeedBurner Deathwatch Continues: Google Kills AdSense For Feeds (Frederic Lardinois) http://t.co/o1h36bul #
  • Reading – The Settling Electorate (Matthew Yglesias) http://t.co/AI6M78bk #
  • Reading – My Thoughts on Mitt Romney, Person (John Scalzi) http://t.co/b7oEFdmL #
  • Reading – Debate! Where The Gaffes Are Made Up & The Points Don’t Matter (Oliver Willis) http://t.co/Bxxoir04 #
  • EC Update for Sun Sep 30 done. Polls added in 5 states. No category changes. http://t.co/kF2iz3uE #
  • Reading – Fusion Project Faces a Frugal Congress (William J. Broad) http://t.co/Q2njm0eH #
  • Reading – Poll: Inslee leads McKenna, 46% to 45% (Darryl, HorsesAss) http://t.co/zT8bi8Zs #
  • Reading – A Conversation With Randall Munroe, the Creator of XKCD (Megan Garber) http://t.co/h2kUyATc #
  • Oh yeah, forgot to tweet about five hours ago when Ivan & I finished recording CC. But we did. I will try to have it out before the debate. #
  • MT @BenjySarlin: interesting RT @fivethirtyeight: We would have had Bush @ about 80% PV fav @ this point in 2004. Gore 70% to win PV in 2000 #

Kids at Dinner

@abulsme Updates from 2012-09-29 (UTC)

  • CT Scan today confirmed my pain from last 2 weeks is a kidney stone. Currently blocking a ureter. Rx pain killers make it tolerable. #Fun #
  • RT @TonyFratto: The more I study up on driverless cars, the more I’m convinced its the biggest of next big things. #
  • Reading – Perspective (John Moltz) http://t.co/2f3mXuq3 #
  • Reading – Exposed: U.S. May Have Designated Julian Assange and WikiLeaks an “Enemy of the State” (DemocracyNow) http://t.co/1vgyfpOM #
  • Reading – Life Keeps Making Lemonade (Michael Tomasky) http://t.co/IChOYbsN #
  • Reading – Could Mitt Romney be a Billionaire? (Ben Cohen) http://t.co/uXtQTxXg #
  • EC Update for Sat Sep 29 done. Polls added in 7 states. No Category changes. http://t.co/kF2iz3uE #
  • Reading – The Case for Abolishing Patents (Yes, All of Them) [Jordan Weissmann] http://t.co/jNt3mLU2 #
  • Reading – John Quincy Adams, Neglected President: Five Questions for Biographer Harlow Unger (Britannica Editors) http://t.co/AUd9wZba #
  • Reading – The short-term presidential predictor (Sam Wang) http://t.co/RyUlFwJp #
  • Reading – Defense: Bradley Manning’s Speedy Trial Rights Have Been ‘Trampled Upon’ (Kevin Gosztola) http://t.co/HpovEKgy #
  • Reading – Twenty-Five Years Ago Today, A New Crew Went Boldly, Where No One Had Gone Before. (Wil Wheaton) http://t.co/ffNofUXy #

@abulsme Updates from 2012-09-28 (UTC)

  • RT @ThoughtnDesign: @abulsme It was Jill Stein then Obama… I’m too much a hard ass on the death penalty I guess. #
  • Won’t do my update until later, but quick scan of Thu’s polls looks like Fri’s update will move some states Romneyward again in my model. #
  • RT @greg_ip: Incorporating today’s BLS revision, net payroll growth over Obama’s term would move from -261K to +125K. #
  • Reading – Romney’s tongue-tied eloquence (Fareed Zakaria) http://t.co/yK9VTUnX #
  • Reading – NDAA Plaintiffs Say Obama Flipped When A Judge Blocked Act Because Was Already Detaining People (Abby Rogers) http://t.co/5zCwt4wA #
  • Reading – Quick sites tell you if Obama or Romney are president (Nathan Yau) http://t.co/p4MK4bQk #
  • RT @daveweigel: I step into something for two hours and all of a sudden Netanyahu is Ross Perot? #
  • Reading – Iran’s Nuclear Timeline (Joe Cirinvione) http://t.co/dbhknh1r #
  • Reading – Apple Apologizes for Its Maps Problem (Rebecca J. Rosen) http://t.co/irGKJ2Io #
  • Reading – Poll Analysis: Romney slips a bit (Darryl, HorsesAss) http://t.co/D93VjDYx #
  • EC Update for Fri Sep 28 done. Polls added in 11 states. IA and VA change categories. Blog post soon. http://t.co/kF2iz3uE #
  • Reading – Is Alzheimer’s Type 3 Diabetes? (Mark Bittman) http://t.co/7n7PC7Aw #
  • Reading – Sept. 27: The Impact of the ‘47 Percent’ (Nate Silver) http://t.co/HyM0quTW #
  • MT @ThoughtnDesign: MT @jbarro: Sign the L is confident of O win: complaining more loudly about drone strikes. Pressure on O in 2nd term.” #
  • Reading – Obama is on track to win, but backers shouldn’t get overconfident. Here’s why. (Jonathan Bernstein) http://t.co/FfzcqdFj #

Electoral College: Romney Bottoms, Starts to Recover

Two states change status today, and for a change, they are moves in Romney’s direction:

First up, Iowa, with six electoral votes. A new poll came in “out of order” which erases yesterday’s peak that got Iowa to a 5% Obama lead. The chart above looks at the five poll average as of the end dates of each poll given all polls known today. The trend chart at the top of this post shows the state of the race as of what was known on each day.* So even though the peak gets erased on the state trend, it still shows up for that one day on the summary chart since as of yesterday that was the best estimate. A bit confusing, sorry about that.

In any case, Iowa now drops back into being a competitive state. Obama now has a 3.6% lead… Romney coming back and winning the state seems very possible. 3.6% is not a big lead. Two of the last five polls in the state actually show Romney ahead in the state. The five poll average has never shown Romney ahead here, but Iowa once again goes into the “close state” pool. Romney winning the state is quite possible.

Next is Virginia with 13 electoral votes. On September 23rd Obama’s five poll average lead in Virginia topped 5%. Today he dips back below that threshold. Obama’s lead now stands at 4.3%. Virginia has bounced around quite a bit over the past few months. In the last three months it has ranged from a 5.8% Obama lead to a 0.3% Romney lead. Most frequently the state has shown an Obama lead, but a small one that could easily disappear. Virginia is once again in that situation.

So where does that leave us?

Romney Obama
Romney Best Case 244 294
Current Status 191 347
Obama Best Case 191 347

Romney’s best case is still to lose, but if he wins all the close states it will not be quite as bad a loss now that Virginia and Iowa look like they may be in play again.

Is this the beginning of a more general move back toward Romney? It is obviously too early to tell. But it is not unreasonable to think that while Romney had a few bad weeks, if he manages to avoid any more major missteps, people who reacted negatively recently may start to come back to him. We’ll see how big this move over the next few days.

After that, we start seeing what effect, if any, come out of the Presidential debates.

* The exception is when an old poll comes in so late that is is not within the five poll average at all. If that happens, and if it changes the trend lines, I will retroactively adjust the historical trends. But if polls come in “out of order” but still within the “last five” they are considered a current poll and are just added in normally with no retroactive adjustments.

Note: Chart and map from the Abulsme.com 2012 Electoral College Prediction page. Both assume Obama vs Romney with no strong third party candidate and show polling as it currently exists. Things will change before election day. On the map red is Romney, blue is Obama, gold states are too close to call. Lines on the chart represent how many more electoral votes a candidate would have than is needed to tie under several different scenarios. Up is good for Obama, Down is good for Romney.

@abulsme Updates from 2012-09-27 (UTC)

  • Reading – Republicans are losing ground up and down the ballot. But why? (Chris Cillizza and Aaron Blake) http://t.co/T1zTP4e2 #
  • Reading – Site improvements (and Bayesian jealousy) [Sam Wang] http://t.co/wqEed642 #
  • Reading – Sept. 25: Romney’s Narrow Path Without Ohio (Nate Silver) http://t.co/2NVmjlMt #
  • Reading – Why don't Iranians wear ties? (BBC) http://t.co/Soj8nRJa #
  • Reading – The Coming Romney Comeback Narrative (Robert Wright) http://t.co/o9VdFIpM #
  • Reading – Obama Mulls Competing for Arizona (Taegan Goddard) http://t.co/ceKOw0vK #
  • Reading – Is Paul Ryan right that Obama’s Foreign Policy is Blowing up in Our Faces? (Juan Cole) http://t.co/YDAGkqAe #
  • EC Update for Thu Sep 27 Done. New polls added in OH FL MD MA PA CO IA MO. FL and IA change categories. Blog post soon. http://t.co/kF2iz3uE #
  • Reading – Conservative Polling Alternative Plans Expansion (Ruby Cramer) http://t.co/uRCdD6Dh #
  • Reading – New Obama Ad Simply Replays Romney's '47 Percent' Comments (Pema Levy) http://t.co/Pxb082vF #
  • Important stuff. I think I am here too. This -> Reading – Why I Refuse to Vote for Barack Obama (Conor Friedersdorf) http://t.co/h7tg68be #
  • Yes. Not sure much more downside though. RT @ThoughtnDesign: @abulsme Is it safe to say that the #MittRomney campaign is in free fall? #
  • Have not looked in detail, but willing to trust the pollsters know their craft. RT @ThoughtnDesign: @abulsme Wha’d u think of his methods? #
  • MT @ThoughtnDesign: @abulsme Interesting article. I’m not there but this country needs to have a frank disc abt war powers & the role of gov #
  • .@ThoughtnDesign I've been wanting to do a long post on the issues that are most important to me & where that leaves my vote. No time yet. #
  • Reading – When 'Everyone Is Qualified' (Ta-Nehisi Coates) http://t.co/bDHtQ7dk #
  • Reading – Is the GOP Still a National Party? (Daniel McCarthy) http://t.co/eiE5UU4T #
  • Reading – ACLU documents show increasing phone and internet surveillance by Department of Justice (Adi Robertson) http://t.co/RvmMEyHG #
  • MT @RBReich: Ds must not be complacent. Tween now & Election: 2 unemployment reps, 3 prez debates, huge $$ from Rs, and voter suppression. #
  • Reading – Iran Close to Making a Bomb, Netanyahu Says (Rick Gladstone) http://t.co/wXMHAFbK #
  • RT @ThoughtnDesign: 1/2 @abulsme I look forward to reading it and perhaps, making a few rebuttals. #
  • RT @ThoughtnDesign: 2/2 @abulsme I've always maintained that there are some real arguments to be made against our President. #
  • MT @ThoughtnDesign: @abulsme However, the opp party seams unwilling or unable to make these args, but instead offer shameless demagoguery. #
  • .@ThoughtnDesign What I would write would not be argument against Pres. Just outline of which issues most important to me & view on those. #
  • .@ThoughtnDesign From there one could naturally move toward "Which candidate is closest to my own views in the areas most important to me?" #
  • .@thoughtndesign I suspect result would not be Obama. Or Romney. Probably Johnson. See quiz I posted last month: http://t.co/oNFAG9VD #
  • .@thoughtndesign I have not yet set aside time to do a deep dive on Johnson though. Would need to do so before ACTUALLY voting for him. #
  • RT @ThoughtnDesign: @abulsme I took that quiz. Wouldn't it be a Hell of a country if elections were determined by quiz? #
  • .@ThoughtnDesign I actually think that might be a good idea. :-) #
  • .@ThoughtnDesign And your results were… #