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2012 Republican Delegate Count: Maine and a Paul Super

Chart from the Abulsme.com 2012 Republican Delegate Count Graphs page. When a candidate gets down to 0%, they have cinched the nomination. If they get up past 100%, they have been mathematically eliminated.

So. Maine. A few things to say before looking at any numbers here. Maine is another of those states where no actual delegates were designated by the initial caucuses there. Instead, two things happened. First, there was a straw poll. Second, there was the elections to the delegates of the next round. The second thing is actually related to who eventually gets delegates when all is said and done months from now. The first does not. At all. But it is what is reported because it is an easy to understand result. Also, it should be said that some precincts in Maine haven’t even had their caucuses yet. They don’t get to participate in the straw poll (because it is over) but they will get to vote on delegates and such. The “real” result tonight, as in many of the caucus states, is that no delegates at all have been allocated yet.

For this site, we use estimates from The Green Papers for delegates. These assume that the eventual delegate allocation will be proportional to the straw poll results, at least at first approximation. When later rounds of the delegate selection process happen, the numbers will get revised and may be quite different. As an example, the Ron Paul campaign is saying that they think in the end they will actually get the most delegates from Iowa, Minnesota and Colorado because they had their people stay around after the straw polls and actually run to be delegates to the later stages while the other campaigns for the most part ignored this. We shall see how that plays out. In the mean time, while one can look at only completely determined delegates like DCW does in their primary count, but we’ll use the projected eventual delegates from caucus states until better numbers are available later in the process…

Anyway, now on to the main event. Since the last update, we had the preliminary Maine results (estimated as described above), and Ron Paul gained one superdelegate. So for the day, Paul gains 9 delegates, Romney 8, Santorum 4 and Gingrich 1. So Paul wins the day, right? Or maybe like most people saying, it is a win for Romney since he got the most actual votes in the straw poll?

Wrong. The right answer is that after today EVERYBODY is further away from the nomination than they were yesterday. (Paul just lost the least ground.) Nobody got a high enough percentage of the delegates from today to be on track for getting to 1144 delegates before the convention. The delegate take is continuing to be split in such a way that nobody is taking a majority of the delegates.

In fact, with these results, Romney slips below 50% of the delegates allocated so far for the first time since his big delegate win from the winner take all contest in Florida. Prior to today, if he just continued getting delegates at the same percentage he had been so far, he would win the nomination. Since he is now below 50% again, that means he has to actually improve his performance above his historical levels (slightly) to get to 1144.

Of course we have another winner take all state (Arizona) coming up soon, and that may help Romney’s situation considerably if he wins there (as the current polls indicate is likely).

It is also worth pointing out though that even though Romney’s real position in the race (in terms of % of remaining delegates needed to win) was hurt today like everybody’s else’s… the gap between him and his closest competition (still Gingrich, despite Santorum closing rapidly) continues to grow. Romney now needs 50.1% of the remaining delegates to get to 1144. This is just slightly better than the 49.8% he has gotten so far. By comparison, Gingrich now needs 54.0% to catch up and actually get to 1144. This would be a huge change from the 17.9% he has managed so far.

As long as Romney is hovering around 50% of the delegates rather than consolidating and heading rapidly north of that number, we’re going to be hearing the talk about him not managing to get to 1144 and thus potentially ushering in the first brokered convention in decades. While this is an exciting possibility, the road there is still narrow, and Romney is still very much in shooting distance of an outright win.

If however as we hit the next few contents, we see his “% of remaining delegates needed to win” number staying above 50% and actually start to trend consistently UPWARD rather than flat or down… then that talk starts to be more of a real possibility.

@abulsme Updates from 2012-02-11 (UTC)

  • Reading – Businesses Do Not Run Balanced Budgets (Matthew Yglesias) http://t.co/1yOQE6Cl #
  • Reading – Super-Cool Obama, Super-Hot Christie, and a Book by Harper Lee (James Fallows) http://t.co/yKhTkGz9 #
  • Reading – Why Does Maine Have a Two-and-a-Half-Month Caucus? (David A. Graham) http://t.co/FpPGSt1O #
  • MT @DemConWatch: Confirmed. Paul gets his first superdelegate. MT @IowaGOPer: One of Ron Paul's state chair elected Chairman Iowa GOP #
  • Reading – Maine Caucus Offers an Opportunity for Paul (Nate Silver) http://t.co/cD1dSmXL #
  • MT @LarrySabato: We're all watching ME to see if it's Paul's turn to shine (& Mitt's 4th loss in row). But R's real must-wins are AZ & MI. #

@abulsme Updates from 2012-02-10 (UTC)

@abulsme Updates from 2012-02-09 (UTC)

  • Reading – Rick Santorum Wins Confirm Mitt Romney Weakness: Read The Polls (Mark Blumenthal) http://t.co/sXMucKJp #
  • MT @FHQ: @mysterypollster Not nearly enough people asking this today. Finding roadblocks to Romney is easy but who else gets to 1144 & how? #
  • Reading – How Romney could fail to get enough delegates (Philip Klein) http://t.co/nS1xT8TW #
  • MT @pourmecoffee: Fox is ending House after this season. To watch an arrogant jerk spout wild theories, you'll have to settle for Gingrich. #
  • MT @fivethirtyeight: Personally I think the odds of winning the nom are about: Romney 75%, Santorum 20%, Newt/other 5% #
  • RT @donttrythis: Nice! Travel through the body one slice at a time. Best. Gif. Ever. http://t.co/qPGVbN2A (from Reddit) #
  • RT @FHQ: Republican winner-take-all states: FL, AZ, PR, DC, DE, NJ & UT (228 total delegates) http://t.co/PwD3yH50 #
  • Reading – Delegates, real and projected (Matt, DCW) http://t.co/akQCO8KF #
  • Reading – This is what foreign-policy success looks like (The Economist) http://t.co/Hqsd0jId #
  • RT @DemConWatch: Romney gets new superdelegate for 3rd straight day: 0 for 3 on Tuesday night? No problem… http://t.co/OhlXxkZZ #p2 #
  • Reading – Senate sneaks in SOPA under a new name (RT) http://t.co/tsISptpo #

2012 Republican Delegate Count: Romney Super #18

Chart from the Abulsme.com 2012 Republican Delegate Count Graphs page. When a candidate gets down to 0%, they have cinched the nomination. If they get up past 100%, they have been mathematically eliminated.

Romney picks up another superdelegate. This of course slightly improves his sitaution and slightly degrades everybody else’s.

Currently Romney needs 49.9% of the remaining delegates to win. His closest competition, Gingrich, needs 53.5% of the remaining delegates to be able to catch up and win. Santorum needs 53.7%. And finally Paul is furthest behind of the candidates still in the race, needing 54.3% of the remaining delegates to catch up and win.

@abulsme Updates from 2012-02-08 (UTC)

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Electoral College: Virginia moves to Lean Obama

Chart from the Abulsme.com 2012 Electoral College Prediction page. Lines represent how many more electoral votes a candidate has than is needed to tie under several different scenarios.

A couple of new polls move my “last five poll” average in Virginia from being “Just barely Romney” to being “Just barely Obama”. In reality, the state is too close to call. But if everybody won all the states they are ahead in at the moment, that would make the result Obama 328, Romney 210… a pretty solid Obama victory. To match his 2008 record though, Obama would need to also win all of the remaining “Lean Romney” states. And of course Romney still has possibilities to win by grabbing “Lean Obama” states back. It is a long year.

The map doesn’t change since I’m coloring all too close to call states purple, but here it is again anyway:

Map from the Abulsme.com 2012 Electoral College Prediction page.

Edit 2012 Feb 16 19:48 UTC to correct typo.

2012 Republican Delegate Count: Minnesota and Colorado plus a Super (but not Missouri)

Chart from the Abulsme.com 2012 Republican Delegate Count Graphs page. When a candidate gets down to 0%, they have cinched the nomination. If they get up past 100%, they have been mathematically eliminated.

Santorum won three states last night! Of course one of them (Missouri) has no relation whatsoever with how delegates are actually selected, so isn’t REALLY relevant (although of course it affects the narrative and “momentum”.) The other two states didn’t actually determine delegates either, but like Iowa, elected delegates to the next stage of the process… which eventually will elect real delegates, so that is good enough that we can use the results to estimate what the eventual delegates will be (although it WILL change). But never the less, Santorum won three states! Santorum is surging, Romney is in trouble, etc, etc, etc!

OK. Time to wake up from the hype here. What is actually going on when we look at the delegate race. First, lets look specifically at Santorum.

As of yesterday’s update, in order to be on a pace to actually catch up and win the nomination before the convention, Santorum would need to be getting 53.3% of all the remaining delegates. What did he actually get? According to our estimates (as usual using The Green Papers and DCW as our sources) 71 new delegates were determined since our last update… 37 from Minnesota, 33 from Colorado, and 1 super delegate. Of these, Santorum got 30. 30/71 = 42.3%. Much better than Santorum had been doing previously… he’s only had 6.4% of delegates before today… but a long way from the pace he would need to actually be on track to catch up and win. So, big night in terms of “momentum”. But in terms of the actual race, he is not gaining on Romney at the pace he would need to actually win. He did actually pass Ron Paul in delegates though, so he’s in 3rd place instead of 4th now, and he came close to catching up to Gingrich to pull into 2nd. So there is that. But he is not on track to actually challenge Romney. At least to win.

Which brings us to Romney. Santorum and the others may not be on a pace to win the nomination, but they ARE hurting Romney. To keep on a pace to win the nomination, as of yesterday’s update Romney needed to be winning 49.2% of the remaining delegates. He actually got 19/71 = 26.8%. Well below what he needed. So he too now has a harder road to the nomination than he did yesterday, even though he is still way ahead. He is still over 50% of the delegates determined so far but just barely (50.9%). We have a lot of proportional contests coming up. Including results from Maine coming soon. He may well drop below 50% again.

What does this all mean? We may have a situation where NONE of the four candidates are tracking toward having a majority of delegates by the time we get to the convention. Wouldn’t that be fun? That hasn’t happened in forever. But for that to happen, we need to continue to have at least three candidates actively collecting delegates, where the non-Romney candidates collectively were getting enough to keep Romney off pace to win (currently the three of them need to get over 50.05% of the remaining delegates for that), but with none of the non-Romneys on pace to catch up and win either. This could happen if Gingrich, Santorum and Paul all stay in it until the end and don’t run out of money or support. If any of these drop out (or their support collapses so Romney starts getting enough to be on pace to win) it will change the dynamics of the race. How it changes depends on who drops out.

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Edit 2012 Feb 10 17:42 to add attribution.