Three more superdelegates for Obama.
Three more superdelegates for Obama.
The original site, linked from MyDD, looks like it is no longer has the bit quoted, but the relevant bit is still here: History Lesson
I can’t describe just how exciting a scenario like the above would be to watch play out. Of course, the results of 1836 pretty much killed that strategy forever… uh… until now? Nah, of course not. But it would be fun damn it! Another good article on the democratic race while I do the lunch thing. Another one outlining the possibilities, and the main path to a win Clinton has remaining. The Clinton Campaign and the “Popular Vote”
I can’t let myself even hope for so much fun at the convention, I’d only end up dissapointed. :-) Two really long and detailed articles giving good insight into the Democratic race: The Law of Rules
(via Kevin Drum, Washington Monthly) No Really. Hillary Has a Decent Shot
(via Instapundit) Good luck!! Merrill to Cut Up to 10% of Non-Broker Staff
(via Huffington Post) Looks like the pollster.com trend lines in PA now show Hillary’s lead in PA to be less than 10%. 9.9% at the moment. One poll today actually shows Obama ahead, although it is clearly an outlier. As usual, Obama is narrowing Clinton’s lead as we get closer. Now, I still don’t expect Obama to win. That would be an amazing stretch from where we are (even though we have almost a whole month yet to go). Although with the lead narrowing like this, you are going to see people start to talk about that. We shall see. But keep in mind, in terms of the REAL race (as opposed to the spin) Clinton needs to win by better than a 58% to 42% margin (in delegates, not popular vote) in order to make it so that after PA she is closer to winning rather than further away from winning. The current split on pollster is 50.9% Clinton, 41% Obama, 8.1% Other (Presumably mainly undecided). If we just split the undecideds at the same ratio as Clinton and Obama have among the decided group to “normalize” this, you get: Clinton 55.4%, Obama 44.6%. Assuming delegate counts will roughly follow popular vote, she has *already* lost the level of lead she needs to be on a pace to catch up with Obama by the convention. With a 55/45 “win” after the delegates are counted, she’ll need to get an even HIGHER percentage of the remaining delegates to win. She needs more than 58% of all remaining delegates (including supers) to win. A 55% “win” is really a loss. Of course, if she wins by even 50.0000001% in the popular vote, even if she loses in delegates, the spin coming out of that night will still be about her “win” and how she has the momentum now, etc… Don’t believe the spin, watch the numbers. Obama picks up one superdelegate from Minnesota. As a warning for those listening to this week’s podcast in the section about Al Gore there were some numbers pulled out of our asses that had no relation to reality. Things about numbers of delegates that Al Gore would have to get to force a second ballot. I apologize, because I hadn’t spent much time thinking about it before hand, but the way I was talking about it was of course complete BS. I was just making crap up. I did start to allude to the right answer in the podcast, but never actually articulated it. So I will do so here. So, OK, here is the deal. And this should actually be obvious, and I was a dumbass when we were recording. It is all about denying whoever is ahead their majority. This could take many delegates, this could take just a few. And “how many are needed” all depends on how close it really is. What is the “Gap” between the candidates. Assuming Obama is in the lead, to force a second ballot you need: Clinton + Edwards + Gore > Obama (and of course Clinton still not getting a majority herself) Doing a little algebra: Gore > Obama – Clinton – Edwards The Obama/Clinton gap right now is 139 delegates. (So Obama-Clinton=139). Edwards has 18. So if that gap did not change at all, and the Edwards delegates stay Edwards delegates, Gore would have to get more than 121 delegates to force a second ballot. At this very moment there are 340 superdelgates who have not yet declared a preference. So Al Gore (or whoever) would need to get 36% of these remaining unpledged delegates to make this happen. Of course, between the remaining primaries and superdelegates changing hands, that number *will* change. The more Clinton manages to narrow the gap, the fewer people have to go for a third candidate to force a second ballot. If Obama manages to increase the gap, then it becomes harder, and more people would have to go for a third candidate. It is directly linear with the delegate gap between the candidates. Basically, the number of delegates who vote for “someone else” has to be more than the delegate gap between the two leading candidates. It is that simple. The end. (Given all this, I’ll reduce the 15% chance of this happening that I mentioned in the podcast down to 2%. I really don’t see this happening unless both Obama and Clinton completely self-destruct.) Obama and Clinton pick up one pledged delegate each from the finalization of delegate counts. (CNN’s Delegate Page does not make it clear which states these 2 delegates are from.) In addition Obama picks up two more superdelegates. Net result, Obama further expands his lead by 2 delegates. The day before Clinton’s “big wins in Ohio and Texas” Obama was ahead by 102 delegates. Obama is now ahead by 139. Oops. Right now Clinton needs 58.6% of the remaining 918 delegates to win. Obama only needs 43.5% of them. She will close the delegate gap somewhat in Pennsylvania. But it is unclear if she will actually be able to win by a big enough margin to be on the 58.6% pace she needs to actually win. If she gets less than 58.6% of the delegates in PA, then after PA she’ll actually have a harder road to the nomination than before, not an easier one. When you are behind, running faster is not good enough. You have to run fast enough to catch up. (Let alone running slower, which is of course what she has done so far.) Good article, worth reading the whole thing: The Obama Doctrine
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