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@abulsme Updates from 2012-10-10 (UTC)

  • Accidentally dropped something valuable in parking garage. Realized was missing many hours later. Went back. It was still there! WIN! #
  • Reading – With Biden Up Next to Debate, Obama’s Aides Plot Comeback (Peter Baker and Trip Gabriel) #
  • Reading – Romney’s Leading Nationally—Just Not in Battleground States (Nate Cohn) #
  • MT @neeratanden: Imagine Obama had Romney’s Sept: many liberal commentators would apparently have committed suicide. Freak out embarrassing. #
  • Reading – The New Slingbox 350 and Slingbox 500 Stream Video at 1080p and Look Weird As Hell (Casey Chan) #
  • RT @politicalmath: My poll advice is the same for the right this week as it was for the left last week: Calm down sparky. #
  • Reading – U.S. Military Sent to Jordan on Syria Crisis (Michael R. Gordon and Elisabeth Bumiller) #
  • Reading – SpaceX CRS-1 Mission Update (Katherine Nelson) #
  • Reading – Quote of the Day: Should Obama Call Romney a Liar? (Kevin Drum) #
  • MT @TheStalwart: I loved Sullivan’s freakout post. Internet would be better if more people blogged like that. Instead, they’re too reserved. #
  • Reading – How to think about Romney’s post-debate bounce (Jonathan Bernstein) #
  • Reading – Inside the campaign: The Romney rebellion (Mike Allen, Jim Vandehei) #
  • Reading – Why Is Team Obama Still Talking About the Debate? (Garance Franke-Ruta) #
  • Reading – How Obama has jeopardized the future of liberalism (Jamelle Bouie) #
  • Reading – iPhone Production Slows as Apple Improves Aluminum Quality (Jamie Condliffe) #
  • EC Update for Wed Oct 10 done. Polls added in 9 states. NV and CO change categories. Blog post soon. #
  • Reading – Romney and the Syrian Dilemma (Juan Cole) #
  • Reading – Dem pollster delivers wake-up call to Obama (Greg Sargent) #
  • Reading – Non-Dissent Of The Day (Andrew Sullivan) #
  • Reading – Turkey Warns Syria It May ‘Respond With Greater Force’ (Anne Barnard, Christine Hauser, Alan Cowell) #
  • Reading – Why Turkey and Syria are Heading toward War (Robert Wright) #
  • Reading – Liberalism and Conservatism Have The Same Glass Jaw—The Voters Don’t Want Change (Matthew Yglesias) #
  • Reading – In excitable pundits vs. political scientists, I’ll take political scientists every time (Ezra Klein) #
  • Reading – How Obama Needs to Make Mitt Unacceptable Again (Michael Tomasky) #
  • Good stuff!! -> Reading – As the post-debate polling cycle matures… (Sam Wang) #
  • RT @politicalmath: For realz RT @iowahawkblog: My 2 cents for Romney: pledge to end the TSA. You’d be as good as elected. #
  • Reading – The Marketing of Mitt Romney (Kevin Drum) #
  • RT @BuzzFeedAndrew: RT @NYDNHammond: “He’s the first Nobel Peace Prize winner with a kill list.” #frontline #

Electoral College: Obama Bleeding Continues

Two states changing status today, and both are bad news for Obama. Lets get right to it:

Prior to the debate last week, Obama’s lead in the five poll average in Nevada was 5.9%, which was a substantial enough lead for Obama that Nevada was not in the list of states that were within reach for Romney. We now have the first post-debate poll, and it shows a tied race in the state. This is just one poll out of five, but it causes the five poll average to drop to a 4.1% Obama lead. So once again I list Nevada as just “Lean Obama” and it contributes to Romney’s best case.

Although it is a drop from where the state was before the debate, “Lean Obama” is actually where Nevada has been most of the last year, so to some degree this is reversion to the mean. Obama had a bunch of strong polls in September, but those are now in the rear view mirror, replaced by the worst numbers he has had in the state all year. (It is important to point out that some of these bad numbers were from polls taken BEFORE the debate.)

The five poll average is still buoyed by some strong late September polls. Unless Obama gets a quick bounce back in the next few polls, I expect Obama’s lead in Colorado will diminish further as those polls age off.

In Colorado before the debate Obama was 3.3% ahead in the five poll average. There have now been four polls that ended after the debate and the state flips to a 1.3% Romney lead. This is the first time in the last year that Romney has been in the lead in Colorado according to the five poll average. Unlike Nevada, where the state was down from a spike toward Obama, but had so far only returned to well traveled territory, in this case Romney is breaking new ground. Romney adds what had been a narrow but consistent Obama state to his column.

So, the new summary:

Romney Obama
Romney Best Case 287 251
Current Status 244 294
Obama Best Case 191 347

Before any discussion, time to eat some crow. On September 6th I said:

…my gut is saying the beginning of September will have marked Romney’s post-primary high water mark in my models. So write that down. I’m going out on that limb. You can all call me on it when it proves to be completely wrong.

So what is the comparison between now and the beginning of September?

  • On September 1st, Romney got 180 electoral votes in Obama’s best case. He now gets 191.
  • On September 1st, Romney got 235 electoral votes in the “Current” case. He now gets 244.
  • On September 1st, Romney got 317 electoral votes in his own best case. He now gets 287.

Well, OK. I never specified how exactly to judge this, but two out of three of the lines being better than they were seems like it should qualify, especially since one of them is the “current” line. By that mark, Romney is now at the best point he has been since the very beginning of January.

To be fair to myself, from that moment onward, in almost every update, I did mention that there was one way for Romney to come back again, and that was for Obama to majorly screw up. I perhaps stated this most clearly in my update from September 27th, which turned out to be Obama’s peak:

Yes, there could be more bad economic news. Yes, Obama could start making huge mistakes and somehow screw this up. But the magnitude of what would be necessary to reverse this gets larger by the day and the scenarios less likely.

At this point Romney needs Obama to catastrophically implode. That is unlikely.

This is done. Obama wins.

Uh… umm…. unless Obama himself screws it up, or something completely unexpected of epic proportions happens.

Gotta always add the caveats. :-)

If you believe the most hyperventilating reports out there, a catastrophic Obama implosion is indeed what seems to have happened at the first debate. It seems it was not as unlikely as I expected. I presumed both Obama and Romney would put in not great but competent debate performances and the net effect would be essentially zero. Instead we saw a brand new Romney, hitting his stride in a way he never had in the previous year, and an Obama who looked like he didn’t want to be there and was phoning it in at best.

Although Obama peaked before the debate, as each post-debate poll comes in, what a couple of weeks ago seemed like an insurmountable lead for Obama is getting transformed into a genuinely close race. A number of people doing detailed analyses of the polls have pointed out that if you look carefully at the dates on both state and national polls, there is tentative evidence that Romney’s debate bounce may have already peaked and is now starting to recede. So this may be a good time to do another detailed look at where the swing states stand, and what it would take for Romney to win.

First thing to point out… despite the fairly significant drop Obama has seen since his peak… he is still ahead! (For the moment anyway.) Some national polling averages now show Romney ahead in the popular vote, but remember we do not have a national election, we have 51 smaller elections. Looking at the states using my five poll average, here is where we now stand, looking not just at my categories, but also specifically at the magnitude of the candidate leads in the close states.

With only the states where Romney is ahead by more than 5%, Romney gets to 191 electoral votes.

Then we add in the close states where he is ahead:

  • North Carolina (15 ev) – Romney leads by 2.9% – 1/5 polls after the debate
  • Colorado (9 ev) – Romney leads by 1.3% – 4/5 polls after the debate
  • Florida (29 ev) – Romney leads by 0.2% – 2/5 polls after the debate

That gets Romney to 244 electoral votes if he can hold his lead in those three states. You need 269 electoral votes to tie (a situation Romney would probably win in the house) or 270 electoral votes to win outright. So Romney needs 25 more electoral votes to tie, 26 to win. To get there he needs to start pulling ahead in states where Obama is currently ahead.

  • Ohio (18 ev) – Obama leads by 0.4% – 5/5 polls after the debate
  • Virginia (13 ev) – Obama leads by 1.0% – 4/5 polls after the debate
  • Iowa (6 ev) – Obama leads by 3.2% – 1/5 polls after the debate
  • Nevada (6 ev) – Obama leads by 4.1% – 1/5 polls after the debate

There are a number of combinations that will get Romney to 270, and any of those four close states could easily flip. They are all close enough that the lead can disappear overnight. With the current state of the polls though, the easiest way for Romney to win seems to be to flip Ohio and Virginia, both of which are now looking exceptionally close. Prior to the debate, Obama had a 7.8% lead in Ohio… now down to 0.4%. That is a massive move in such a short time. Prior to the debate, Obama had a 4.3% lead in Virginia, now down to 1.0%. That’s a smaller move, but not insubstantial. If Romney can move each of those just a LITTLE bit further, then it would put him ahead in my “current” electoral college model for the first time ever.

For almost all of the last year, while Romney’s best case was to win, I’ve been able to repeatedly say that hitting the best case was difficult. Romney would have to almost sweep the close states, and during most of that time, Romney was behind in most of those close states. It was a tall order.

Not so much any more. Romney is still behind. But both Ohio and Virginia are in easy spitting distance. A very slight move in those states, and he pulls ahead. Then if he manages to stay ahead, perhaps even consolidating those leads, then he wins on election day. For the first time since January, this looks like a close race.

The question of course is how long lasting this “debate bounce” is. Can Romney hold onto his gains… and extend them a little further to eke out a narrow win? Or do we start reverting back to where the race has been most of the year? Do we end up back at the “everybody wins the states they are ahead in” line being at Obama 332 to Romney 206 where it has been more often than anywhere else?

The “feel” of the race has certainly changed. Obama was knocked on his heels and is now on defense. At long last, Romney has repositioned himself toward the center, making a play for the voters he needs to win over to win. To win though, he needs to not just hold his gains so far, but pull things a bit further toward him.

If Obama on the other hand can just hold on and prevent any further losses, he wins. If Romney’s bounce recedes (as some say is already happening) then once again Obama wins.

It seems likely that we will indeed see some reversion to the mean, which would favor Obama. But if Obama has another bad debate, or in general if he can’t shift the narrative back in his favor in the next few weeks, he is in big trouble. Romney isn’t in the lead yet according to my classifications… but a few more good polls and he is there. He is close. Really close.

Note: Chart and map from the 2012 Electoral College Prediction page. Both assume Obama vs Romney with no strong third party candidate and show polling as it currently exists. Things will change before election day. On the map red is Romney, blue is Obama, gold states are too close to call. Lines on the chart represent how many more electoral votes a candidate would have than is needed to tie under several different scenarios. Up is good for Obama, Down is good for Romney.