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  • 00:40:01 Reading – Waze Is Fixing One of its Most Annoying Features to Make Streets Safer (Alissa Walker) https://t.co/YlkXeTLnwL
  • 01:29:29 .@AmyNotAmy and I are now checked in at #wadem Convention in Tacoma. Amy as Del, me as guest. Exciting welcome reception at the moment. Woo?
  • 05:01:52 Retweeted @obviousplant_ 2016-04-21 16:44:02 How Many U.S. States Can You Name?

    Left in a children's learning store. Guest written by the hilarious @WigCannon https://t.co/6AFxxt8gbI

  • 06:21:20 Listening to No One Knows Anything Inside A Trump Rally
    via iCatcher! https://t.co/RS6nSiXlEm
  • 14:59:29 Reading – It might be time for Republicans to start panicking about Donald Trump (@TheFix) https://t.co/wCyoJWU8Wr
  • 17:00:39 Senator Merkley ( https://t.co/06zT0KVSwb ) now speaking at #wadem convention. Just finished an anti-Trump riff.
  • 17:19:51 When @SenJeffMerkley talked about needing to support Clinton even though he supported Sanders so isolated booing, but mostly applause.
  • 17:54:31 We have reached the portion of the day where people are getting upset and confused about Roberts Rules of Order. Yay!
  • 17:59:09 There is an effort 2 make a rules change to ensure the convention isn’t adjourned until all resolutions are heard. People are getting antsy.
  • 18:07:44 There are 150 resolutions up for consideration, and possibly more from the floor. I could easily imagine 10+ minutes each. Woo!
  • 18:09:30 About 30 minutes spent so far arguing about this rules change. Weee!
  • 18:12:58 Amendment to make this day’s meeting last mor than 24 hours fails!
  • 18:14:33 More rules change proposals. Yay!
  • 18:15:52 Uh, “more”. in reply to abulsme
  • 18:22:27 Of course all the rules fights are proxy Sanders vs Clinton fights. Sanders folks all riled up.
  • 18:24:08 Current rule being discussed is if convention can endorse a Presidential candidate seperate from simply sending delegates to Philly.
  • 18:24:37 Vote too close to call without an actual count. So they are counting.
  • 18:40:31 Motion to change the rules to allow a later motion to have the convention endorse a Presidential candidate is approved. So much fun!
  • 18:42:30 Now a motion to cut off rules debates and move on. Wonder why? :-)
  • 18:44:02 Motion to stop passed. Now chair trying to move to vote on the rules as written. Now people trying to go back to amend rules. Too late.
  • 18:46:28 Gotta love these parliamentary arguments by people who don’t actually understand the procedures. People getting upset.
  • 18:49:10 Heh. Vote on approving rules as written too close to call with hand count. Calling for written ballot.
  • 18:50:22 Someone tried to move to suspend rules to go back to amendments. Ruled out of order since vote already in process. Lots of grumbling. :-)
  • 18:52:28 People are just so confused. It is very amusing.
  • 19:07:43 Vote to approve the rules as written fails. So this means floor open again for amendments to the rules and such. So hours more of this. Yay!
  • 19:12:07 There is a new temporary chair who is being ruthless on keeping people on track. Good.
  • 19:20:27 Motion to change rules to allow a later motion to endorse a candidate by majority of delegates present passes.
  • 19:22:21 Oops. Vote taken before comments and debate. So motion to reconsider, but motion failed. Moving on.
  • 19:24:33 People trying a motion to reconsider instead of acclimation to reconsider. Now only needs a majority. Failed. Moving on again.
  • 19:29:06 Now looking at amendment to change what the rules for debate on resolutions later to adjust who gets to speak and how long.
  • 19:30:10 Motion withdrawn as unneeded as since previous lack of debate was an accident, not because the rules were wrong.
  • 19:33:44 Chair desperately trying to break for lunch. People trying to stop her. Crowd unhappy.
  • 19:35:28 Recess declared for lunch. Good. Hungry.
  • 19:45:27 One note from earlier. All the Sanders alternates were seated, which means quite a lot of Sanders delegates didn’t bother to show up.
  • 19:49:10 Retweeted @WipeHomophobia 18:56:52 #SignsOnThePearlyGates https://t.co/Pgolyj7zi4
  • 20:15:12 Retweeted @nduchast 20:02:04 we have a new super hero!
    Best rules chairperson I have ever seen.
    Noel Frame rocks!!!
    #WADems #WAStateConvention https://t.co/ChjqVSGjQX
  • 20:49:48 Over lunch had a huge rain and hail storm. Streets flooded. https://t.co/Ex69hRdABJ
  • 20:52:52 We missed the first 15 minutes or so of the reconvened convention. Surprise! Still arguing rules! :-)
  • 20:55:17 Rules change to limit debate to 2 speakers on each side, 2 minutes each passed overwhelmingly. Ha!
  • 20:58:01 New motion to accept rules as amended. Requires 2/3 to pass.
  • 20:59:42 Motion to end rules debate passes. Now vote to approve rules. Simple majority. Point of inquiry booed.
  • 21:00:26 Rules pass!
  • 21:00:33 Applause.
  • 21:06:26 Credentials report. Seated delegates: 690 Sanders, 270 Clinton (960 Total) #WADemCon
  • 21:11:51 Temporary Chair Noelle Frame voted in as Perminant chair. Only nominee.
  • 21:14:03 Time for selection of electors for the Electoral College. (Assuming the Dems win Washington state.) #WADemCon
  • 21:15:37 Only selecting 2 of the 12 WA electors here. #WADemCon
  • 21:23:57 Nominations for electors now in progress. #WADemCon
  • 21:24:38 Retweeted @nduchast 21:23:13 #WADemCon dueling resolutions most ptobably coming up: "endorse Bernie" vs "dual endorse Bernie and Hilary" – all symbolic
  • 21:33:40 Retweeted @DinaWeather 21:32:56 @abulsme Your video? TheWeatherChannel would like to use w/courtesy on all plats. Pls reply newsdesk@weathergroup.com in reply to abulsme
  • 21:35:28 .@DinaWeather Emailed as requested. But yes, you may use with attribution. Thanks! in reply to DinaWeather
  • 21:36:42 .@DinaWeather And yes. My video. in reply to abulsme
  • 21:42:10 Given the real ability of electors to be faithless the fact there are nominations from the floor for electors with no vetting is astounding.
  • 21:57:55 Just for fun, another video of the street flooding earlier. https://t.co/XeeensG5CG
  • 22:09:17 One of the elector candidates promising to be a faithless elector and not vote for Clinton if she won. Got booed.
  • 22:09:20 Many of the people in this room have no idea what a presidential elector is. Pretty sure that includes a bunch of the candidates. #WADemCon
  • 22:09:22 Someone says voting as a faithless elector is illegal. Chair clarifies is is only a $1000 fine. #WADemCon. Faithless electors are fun!
  • 22:10:33 So many candidates for elector. So little understanding of what an elector is and what they do. Or the power they actually have. #WADemCon
  • 22:11:36 Being an elector so much more power than being a delegate. $1000 fine or not, an elector can vote for ANYBODY they want. ANYBODY. #WADemCon
  • 22:13:56 The 538 members of the electoral college are the only pple whose votes actually matter. That they are chosen this way is stunning. #WADemCon
  • 22:15:19 This is only to determine the Democratic slate of electors of course. But this is WA. Dem slate will win in November. #WADemCon
  • 22:16:45 Retweeted @nduchast 22:11:12 @abulsme short from 701 for a Charter ammendment, as some wanted. Now, even if 701, that would have been tight. Why so many did not show up? in reply to abulsme
  • 22:17:23 .@nduchast Presumably they thought it was pointless since Clinton the clear nominee at this point, so they didn’t bother. in reply to nduchast
  • 22:17:35 Retweeted @hurchelyoung 22:15:39 @abulsme #Madness in reply to abulsme
  • 22:19:32 .@hurchelyoung Only tradition & (in WA) a $1000 fine that makes electors vote for cand that wins state. Can vote for anybody. #WADemCon in reply to hurchelyoung
  • 22:21:39 .@hurchelyoung These people have huge power, even if they don’t know it & it is rarely exercised. Not sure they even know it. #WADemCon in reply to abulsme
  • 22:24:51 Realizing I prob should have run for elector. Don’t have to be a delegate for that. Just have to have delegates nom and second. Oh well. :-)
  • 22:25:15 Retweeted @SharonHayes 22:23:06 @abulsme thx for the explanations. Hadn't been aware of this. in reply to abulsme
  • 22:25:20 Retweeted @hurchelyoung 22:23:37 @abulsme This probably made sense in the 1800's. Now this is just nonsense. in reply to abulsme
  • 22:27:28 .@hurchelyoung I’m actually a fan of the Electoral College. But picking the electors is really important, shouldn’t be done this way. in reply to hurchelyoung
  • 22:34:41 More pple promising to be faithless electors & vote 4 Sanders in EC. If there are a lot of Faithless electors, just throws elec to R House.
  • 22:35:57 Maybe I’ll run for elector in 2020. :-/
  • 22:36:42 Retweeted @SnoCo_Scanner 22:15:35 Looks like some heavy weather is moving in to SnoCo from the SW. #everett #mukilteo #lynnwood will get hit soon.
  • 22:41:13 Given how this is going & extrapolating to other states, I’m predicting at least one Sanders electoral vote in Dec from a faithless elector.
  • 22:43:33 That is a little flip. Electors end up under enormous pressure to do what they are supposed to do. So maybe 50/50. But still. in reply to abulsme
  • 22:47:22 Nomination speeches for elector done. Voting soon. If nobody has majorities for the two slots (one male, one female) then runoff.
  • 22:47:55 Someone again asking what the hell an elector does and who they vote for. They are trying to explain. :-/ #WADemCon
  • 22:49:25 Someone who was actually an elector in 2012 explaining. #WADemCon
  • 23:22:18 Now they are going through giving permission to let amendments be withdrawn for amendments where the authors want to withdraw. #WADemCon
  • 23:27:05 All amendments that the authors wanted to withdraw are withdrawn. @NoelFrame says we just saved two hours. Yay!
  • 23:27:14 Now charter amendments that will actually be considered.
  • 23:46:22 They are tallying votes on a gender equity related charter amendment. Quietest it has been in the room all day. #WADemCon
  • 23:47:49 Someone pointed out that if they tally all votes they won’t get through the whole agenda today. Think that boat sailed hours ago. #WADemCon
  • 23:52:25 The charter amendment passed. Someone objecting cause chair of the tally committee wrote the amendment. Oops! #WADemCon Vote stands anyway.
  • 23:55:38 Move to suspend rules to lower time people can speak on each item. Passes. Of course that isn’t what has taken the time. #WADemCon

@ElectionGraphs tweets from 2016-06-17 (UTC)

@abulsme tweets from 2016-06-17 (UTC)

Curmudgeon’s Corner: Ridiculously Eventful

Sam and Ivan are together again for this week’s Curmudgeon’s Corner podcast. Topic #1 is of course the mass shooting in Orlando. Then we return as always to the latest developments in Election 2016. Rounding it out we have some thoughts on WWDC, the Disney Alligator incident, the new Napster, and more. Oh, and Sam’s 6 year old son Alex pops in several times to give his thoughts on the events of the day as well.

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Recorded 2016-06-16

Length this week – 1:51:17

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Show Details:

  • (0:00:10-0:10:33) But First
    • Ivan’s Bad Weeks
    • Agenda
    • Preview of Next Week
    • New Napster
    • Feedback
  • (0:11:49-0:51:04) Orlando
    • Alex thoughts on Orlando and Stamps
    • What Happened
    • Puerto Rican connection
    • Motivations
    • Warning signs
    • The gun debate
  • (0:51:54-1:23:05) Election 2016
    • Primaries Over
    • Trump national poll collapse
    • Trump on the Prompter
    • Trump support demographics
    • Dump Trump
    • Wikileaks on Clinton
  • (1:24:16-1:50:57) Hodgepodge
    • Alex has more thoughts
    • WWDC
    • DNC Hack
    • Trump Drop Out?
    • Disney Alligator

Electoral College: Trump close in Virginia again too

Since the last notable change, Jill Stein became the presumptive nominee of the Green party. So I folded in 4-way poll results that included her in AZ/NC/OH/NJ/GA/PA/FL/CT. I also added new polls in VA/WI/CA. Of all of these updates, changes only resulted from the additions in Virginia and Pennsylvania.

Interestingly, although Trump has been plummeting in the national polls the last few weeks (see Pollster and RCP), 4 out of the 5 state level category changes and 4 out of 4 tipping point changes here at Election Graphs since Trump became the presumptive Republican nominee have been in Trump’s favor.

I have been attributing this to the natural lag in the kind of state poll averages tracked here… but the trend has gone on long enough that there may be something else happening. It is actually starting to look like Clinton’s lead has been narrowing in a number of states, even while Trump has been falling further behind at a national level. This is an odd pattern. It will be interesting to see if it continues.

In the mean time, lets look at the latest example:

Virginia

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In Virginia on the eve of Trump becoming the clear winner on the Republican side he was behind by 12% in the Election Graphs average. With every poll since then, his position has improved. He’s now behind by only 3.2%. The most recent results were from June 13-15… well after the narrative of Trump’s collapse in the national polls was taking hold, and after weeks of Trump doing and saying things that seemed to be damaging his prospects nationally.

But yet the newest results have Trump down only 3% in a state where he had a poll showing him down 17% back in January. This trend does not look like a collapse. Quite the contrary. It does look like Trump is in a downward spiral in the national polls. But in Virginia specifically, he is doing better than he has since last August.

It seems strange that Virginia would be rapidly moving in the opposite direction than the national polls. Perhaps if we had weekly polls in Virginia we might have seen a different picture. Perhaps there have been large swings up and down that are just invisible because there have not been enough polls to show it. Maybe. But with the data we have, it really looks like Virginia has been on a Trumpward swing, despite the national trends.

With Virginia now close, we now include Trump winning it in “Trump’s best case”. So a quick look at the national trend:

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Aside from the one bump showing Clinton making Utah close, the trend here at the state level looks like Trump making a number of states closer. First Florida, then North Carolina, then Pennsylvania, now Virginia.

Trump isn’t flipping states, but he is making more states close. The national picture may look different, but at the state level, which is what actually determines the winner in November, there isn’t a Trump collapse visible yet. Trump is actually looking stronger.

Pennsylvania

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With Jill Stein now the presumptive nominee of the Green party, I added in a number of polls I had been tracking but not yet including in the analysis that included Jill Stein along with the major party candidates and Gary Johnson for the Libertarians. Among those was a poll in Pennsylvania showing a 1% Clinton lead over Trump. This did not change the status of Pennsylvania, which had already moved to Weak Clinton in the last update, but since Pennsylvania was the tipping point state, it moved that metric:

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The tipping point state remains Pennsylvania, but the margin moves from a 3.8% Clinton lead to a 3.4% Clinton lead.

So with today’s updates, both Trump’s “best case” and his tipping point improve.

The downward trend in the national numbers may eventually show itself at the state level, but it hasn’t yet.

144.9 days until the polls start closing on Election Day 2016.

Note: This post is an update based on the data on ElectionGraphs.com. Election Graphs tracks both a poll based estimate of the Electoral College and a numbers based look at the Delegate Races. All of the charts and graphs seen in this post are from that site. Additional graphs, charts and raw data can be found there. Follow @ElectionGraphs on Twitter or like Election Graphs on Facebook to see announcements of updates or to join the conversation. For those interested in individual general election poll updates, follow @ElecCollPolls on Twitter for all the polls as they are added. If you find the information in these posts interesting or useful, please consider visiting the tip jar.