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2012 Republican Delegate Count: Louisiana Update

Charts from the Abulsme.com 2012 Republican Delegate Count Graphs page.  When a candidate gets down to 0%, they have cinched the nomination.  If they get up past 100%, they have been mathematically eliminated.  The first chart is by date, the second is by “% of Delegates Already Allocated”.  These numbers include estimates of the eventual results of multi-stage caucus processes which will be refined as the later stages occur.

I mentioned yesterday that there was some disagreement on interpretation of the rules for how delegates would be allocated in Louisiana.  Green Papers said Santorum 13, Romney 7.  @FHQ said Santorum 10, Romney 5 and some uncommitted delegates.  My charts use the Green Papers Numbers.  Well, since yesterday’s update the Louisiana Republican party weighed in…  and it was 10-5, not 13-7.  So @FHQ was right and wins that argument.  So Green Papers updated their numbers.

So, net for today:  Santorum -3, Romney -2.

This adjusts the numbers slightly, but does not change yesterday’s conclusions.  Both Romney and Santorum didn’t do as well as they needed in Louisiana to move toward 1144.  So it was still an “everybody loses” contest.  Just slightly different numbers.

For today’s adjustment, the “% of remaining needed to win” changes like this:

  • Romney:  47.34% -> 47.31%
  • Santorum:  71.87% -> 71.82%
  • Gingrich:  80.87% -> 80.54%
  • Paul:  87.16% -> 86.81%

So essentially today is an “everybody wins!” day, simply because there are 5 more delegates available today compared to what was thought to be available yesterday.

The race summary remains the same.  The non-Romneys are rushing toward mathematical elimination.  It would take an event like Romney dropping out to give them an actual shot to get to 1144 before the convention.  The most likely scenario remains Romney slowly but surely accumulating delegates and getting to 1144.  The possibility of the non-Romneys blocking Romney from getting to 1144 remains remote, but not yet so remote that I’m ready to say outright that it is impossible.

@abulsme Updates from 2012-03-25 (UTC)

2008 vs 2012 After Louisiana

I had promised an update of the 2008 vs 2012 frontrunner graph after Louisiana.  I had thought we would have about 52% of the delegates allocated (or estimated) at this point, but I was wrong.  States responsible for about 52% of the delegates have “started their process” according to Green Papers, but not all of those delegates are determined yet, for a variety of reasons.  Instead, we are only at about 47%.

52% is a good place to compare because that is where things were in 2008 right after Super Tuesday was all settled.  In 2008 we were closest to the 47% mark on February 7th, which was after Super Tuesday, but still with only partial results from those contests.  So the comparison will be better after we get past that point.

In any case, here is the update after Louisiana:

Romney is still behind McCain’s pace four years ago, but not by very much.  It isn’t a dramatic difference.  It just FEELS like it is because of the very different calendars in 2008 vs 2012.  But really, the two candidates are tracking each other pretty closely by this analysis.

The chart by Seth at Enik Rising still shows a much bigger apparent difference.  (As of when I write this, he has updated for Illinois, but not Louisiana.)

In my previous analysis I’d determined that the two graphs actually have very similar data.  The difference in how they are perceived is due to three main factors:

  • I connect the dots for each day, while ER does a linear regression.  Since ER’s linear regression includes data from after when McCain was the clear winner in 2008, it pulls the McCain line up further on his chart than if he only included data up to the same % we are in the 2012 race.
  • I have daily data points from both 2008 and 2012, compared to data only with the final full results at ER.  The partial results in the days after Super Tuesday in 2008 keep McCain’s line a little lower than if you had just drawn a straight line from before Super Tuesday to the first data point after complete Super Tuesday results were available.
  • He’s got a taller vertical scale, which means psychologically the vertical gaps look bigger on his chart than mine, even if they are really about the same.

Anyway, interesting to look at the data in these two different ways.

DC, Maryland and Wisconsin happen on April 3rd…  all winner take all.  There are no polls in DC and Maryland, but those don’t seem like Santorum country.  The most recent poll in Wisconsin, a Rassmussen poll (the only one taken in March so far) has Romney ahead.

If Romney does win all three of those contests, we’ll be at 51% of the delegates allocated (or estimated) and Romney will ALMOST have caught up to McCain’s pace in 2008.  (Romney will have 29% of the total delegates, where at the comparable point McCain had 30%.)

We’ll see if that is how it plays out.  I’ll do another update of this chart after we have those results.

But NOT Ready to Go Home

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2012 Republican Delegate Count: Louisiana

Charts from the Abulsme.com 2012 Republican Delegate Count Graphs page.  When a candidate gets down to 0%, they have cinched the nomination.  If they get up past 100%, they have been mathematically eliminated.  The first chart is by date, the second is by “% of Delegates Already Allocated”.  These numbers include estimates of the eventual results of multi-stage caucus processes which will be refined as the later stages occur.

So, Santorum has a “big win” in Louisiana.  But, unfortunately for him, not big enough.  Green Papers’ Louisiana Results give 13 delegates to Santorum and 7 to Romney.  Gingrich and Paul get nothing.  Louisiana also has 26 more delegates that will be determined by other means.  (Note that there is some question on interpretation of the delegate rules.  @FHQ says 10 Santotum, 5 Romney and some uncommitted delegates.  We use Green Papers as our source, and they will update if it becomes clear their interpretation of the rules was wrong.)

So with a 13-7 split, that is 65% Santorum.  To actually be on a pace to catch up and win, he needed to get 71.8% of the delegates.  Didn’t happen.  Thus with his “big win” Santorum still moves closer to mathematical elimination.  That is some win!

Of course, Romney also didn’t get the delegate levels he needed to be on the pace he needs.  He needed 47.1% of the delegates.  The 35% he gets with his 7 delegates is well below that.

So, it’s an “everybody loses!” day.  Bottom line is that Louisiana doesn’t change much.  The three non-Romney’s are racing inevitably toward elimination.  They are just too far behind to catch up absent something as major as Romney dropping out of the race…  which I don’t think Romney is thinking about doing at this point.  Meanwhile, Romney is in a position to eventually win just by continuing to collect delegates at the same pace he has been.  Romney has collected 53% of the delegates so far.  If he just keeps chugging at those margins, he’ll get to 1144 eventually.  But…  the non-Romney’s collectively have gotten 47% of the delegates.  If they can up that to 53%, then they can still collect enough delegates to block Romney.

47% to 53% is a big move in a political race.  But it is still not out of the realm of the possible.  (It is getting close though.)  A few big slips by Romney.  One of the non-Romney’s doing something really impressive.  It COULD happen.  It is unlikely though.  As I’ve said before here, as it becomes clear that none of the non-Romney’s can actually win, it will be harder and harder for them to actually get delegates.  So it is far more likely that the percentage of delegates the non-Romneys can manage will decline as we  go forward.

“% of remaining needed to win” update based on today’s numbers:

  • Romney:  47.1% -> 47.3%
  • Santorum:  71.8% -> 71.9%
  • Gingrich: 79.6% -> 80.9%
  • Paul: 85.8% -> 87.2%

We’re still not quite to the half way mark.  46.5% of the delegates allocated (or estimated) at this point.

Next up:  DC, Maryland, Wisconsin on April 3rd.  All winner take all states, so likely to have a bigger impact.

@abulsme Updates from 2012-03-24 (UTC)

  • Reading – Runaway planets ejected from galaxy at insane speeds (Denise Chow) http://t.co/pu73NJEN #
  • Reading – Republican Rules Are Not to Blame for Primary War (Josh Putnam & John Sides) http://t.co/SpYbVOYR #
  • Reading – Family of Ducks Visits White House (NBC 4 Washington) http://t.co/aSgtsBof #
  • Reading – Newt Gingrich may come up empty in Louisiana (Ginger Gibson) http://t.co/zdDwypYB #
  • Reading – Poll Analysis: Obama still leads but Santorum does better than Romney (Darryl, HorsesAss) http://t.co/gmRWhjU1 #

@abulsme Updates from 2012-03-23 (UTC)

  • Reading – Hilarious memoirs from the HR department: chapter 15 of "Let's Pretend This Never Happened" (Cory Doctorow) http://t.co/H5SKYUiS #
  • RT @cmdrtaco: The pirate bay wants to fly drones to escape the law. This guy has a way better plan: Ratbots.
    http://t.co/Al7r9tI1 #
  • Reading – The Gaffe Worth A Thousand Ads, Ctd (Andrew Sullivan) http://t.co/JZbYGGAQ #

All Hands 16

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Space Bird

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